Sunday, July 9, 2023

Charles James Hall Verification of Military Service

                                   


 
I was recently contacted by a colleague who asked if I would investigate the military service claims of Charles James Hall.

Hall is well known in the UFO/Conspiracy community as having written a series of books detailing his experiences with "Tall White" Aliens at Nellis AFB, NV from 1964-67.  

"I enlisted in the USAF in July 1964. After completing basic training at Lackland AFB in San Antonio, Texas, I was trained as a USAF weather observer at USAF Weather Training School at Chanute AFB, Illinois. My duties were that of a USAF weather observer during my entire service in the USAF." 

Hall does not name the Weather Squadron he was assigned:

In late March or early April of 1965, I was assigned to the weather squadron stationed at Nellis AFB at Las Vegas, Nevada. I was stationed at Nellis AFB from the early spring of 1965 until May 1967.

Hall claims "Temporary Assigned Duty" (TAD) to range sites at Indian Springs, NV.

While I was permanently stationed at Nellis AFB, Nevada, I was assigned to several temporary tours of duty as the duty weather observer to the Nellis gunnery ranges that are located at Indian Springs, Nevada."

In an undated, unattributed Viewzone.com article titled "Disclose This! Part Three: Tall White Aliens in Vegas: The Charles Hall Experience"  http://www.viewzone.com/event33.htm  The writer describes Hall and his story as follows:

"This is certainly the most under-reported story you have never heard of. And this Part 3 of the series will change that.

All the people, and they are not many, who have researched this case and interviewed Charles Hall, come away with an extremely positive impression as to his sincerity, veracity and general togetherness. He is a likeable person and a gentleman -- old school. A soft-spoken family man and nuclear physicist. There is not one hint of Charles James Hall being a cleverly disguised genius writer-hoaxer who just happens to not have the knack to become a millionaire with his story.

Simply because every alien movie that this author is aware of pales against the Tall Whites in Vegas. Originally written as a fictional account with changed names and locations to protect himself and those who had served with him in the Air Force, Charles Hall later made clear that his series of four books, "Millenial Hospitality", is as close to a documentary as possible."



A documentary was eventually produced and directed by Emil Marczak in 2020 for Amazon Prime titled "Walking with the Tall Whites". 

https://www.amazon.com/Walking-Tall-Whites-Charles-Hall/dp/B084WSDBJK

https://rumble.com/v2udjqw-walking-with-the-tall-whites.html



USAF Bootcamp photo 1964


Hall (center) in USAF Bootcamp 1964

In the first 12 minutes of the documentary, Hall details his service in Vietnam beginning in 1967. 

The documentary includes several photographs taken of Hall in Vietnam.

The first three photographs show Hall in combat/utility uniform wearing the rank of Sr. Airman/Sgt. He is armed with a CAR-15 service rifle.

Were all USAF Weather Observers issued a CAR-15 and two pouches for six 20-round magazines?



The images in the documentary also appear to show permanent buildings with power lines and poles extending for hundreds of yards as well as outdoor lighting as exampled in the image below.

WHAT IS THE SIGN ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THE PHOTO?

Hall appears to be shaving with a knife or bayonet


What's wrong with this picture?




Image posted by Charles J Hall in a July 3, 2023 video



Hall has a secret "Photon theory" and is trying to sell books:






David Hilton:

Researcher David Hilton submitted a National Archives Standard Form 180 (SF-180) to the National Personnel Records Center (NPRC) in St. Louis, Mo in August of 2015.  

https://rumble.com/v1u6zfc-no-record-exists-evidence-for-the-tall-white-aliens-part-4-charles-halls-mi.html

https://rumble.com/v1u71ku-walking-with-the-tall-whites-trailer-charles-james-hall-millennial-hospital.html

Hilton received a response from the NPRC in November 2015 which stated no record of Charles James Hall's military service was located.

2015 NPRC Response to David Hilton FOIA Request


From the 2020 Documentary:

"I was given the choice of re-enlisting and becoming an Officer and being the Duty Weather Observer for my entire career out in the ranges, or if I elected to go to Vietnam they would send me to Cameron Bay which was of the nicest places to get sent to because you weren't really under fire or anything.  When I got back I would only have two and a half months left of my enlistment so I would be discharged and I could go home."

"And since I was quite homesick at the time I decided to take Vietnam because I was expecting to get sent to Cameron Bay and to have an easy rest tour after all the stuff I had been in out on the ranges." - Charles J. Hall


Hall claimed that when he arrived to report to Headquarters with his orders in Vietnam near Saigon, the South Vietnamese airbase at Binh Thuy near the Mekong River had been attacked with American casualties. Hall said that a Sergeant processing him tore up his orders to Cameron Bay and then typed new orders to report to the air base at Binh Thuy.

Hall's bio for Goodreads states: "Charles received an award for surviving more than 35 communist attacks". 

 https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/211296.Charles_James_Hall




Hall's awards as shown in the 2020 Amazon Prime documentary


Awards Claimed:



(From top left to right):

*Air Force Commendation Medal 
  Air Force Good Conduct Medal
  National Defense Service Medal
  Vietnam Service Medal w/Bronze Star
  The Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross w/Palm
  USAF Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal

*(Citation reads: "Sergeant Charles J Hall - For Meritorious Service 11 May 1967 to 11 March 1968)


Highest Rank Claimed:

Sergeant (E-5) 



End of Active Service:

"On May 7. 1967, I was treansferred from BFA Nellis to BFA Binh Thuy in South Vietnam. I stayed in Binh Thuy from May 7, 1967 to May 8, 1968.  After completing my duty trip to Vietnam, I returned to the US and was Honorably Discharged from the USAF on May, 8 1968 at BFA Travis, California."



Previous Investigation:

An August 8, 2005 article by Michael Salla states that a researcher and airline pilot David Coote was able to contact Charles Hall through a woman named Paula Harris. Harris then facilitated contact with three witnesses.

The article details the testimony of witnesses "A,B, and C" who each claimed they were stationed in the USAF in the same area of Indian Springs, NV at about the same time period as Hall during the 1960s.


The only other person to investigate Hall to my knowledge was the aforementioned David Hilton.


Binh Thuy Air Base:

Binh Thuy Air Base 1967

I have cross-referenced the dates provided by Hall including the citation of his Air Force Commendation Medal (11 May 1967 to 11 March 1968) with the history of Binh Thuy Air Base in 1967-68.

"On 20 February 1966, a VC mortar attack on the base was stopped by fire from one of the base's AC-47s as was another mortar attack on 8 July.[6]: 41–2 


On 7 May 1967, A VC attack on Binh Thuy Air Base destroyed four RVNAF A-1H Skyraiders and two UH-34s.[43]


On 14 October 1967 following the activation of the 14th Air Commando Squadron at Nha Trang Air Base the AC-47s of E Flight, 4th Air Commando Squadron were replaced by 5 AC-47s of D Flight 14th Air Commando Squadron.[6]: 56 


During the Tet Offensivein January 1968 Viet Cong (VC) forces attacked the base with mortar and rocket fire and on 13 February launched a ground attack on the base which was repulsed by USAF Security Police for no US or South Vietnamese losses."[8]

Sam Pyle:

In a short article written in 2000,  Sam Pyle, a member of the USAF 632nd Security Police Squadron stationed at Binh Thuy Air Base from May 1967-May 1968, described his experiences during an early Tet mortar attack on February 4th, 1968.  

https://vspa.com/pdf/bt_pyle_sam_10-49-mortar-attack_4-feb_1967.pdf


Aliases:

In his first book, Charles Hall claims he reported to Bihn Thuy as "Airman Second Class "Charles Baker"

"As I stood watching, an Air Force master sergeant in his early 30’s got out from a dark blue USAF van parked nearby. He greeted me as he approached, “I’m Master Sergeant Walters. You’re Airman Charles Baker, aren’t you?” “Yes,” I responded. “I’m Airman 2nd Class Charles Baker, reporting for duty.” “Place your duffel bag in the van, and we’ll get started,” he responded. “We have a mighty long drive down to the southwest to get to the Desert Center Air Base. It’s several hundred miles. We’ll have to make good time if we intend to arrive before the chow hall closes.”

Hall, Charles James. Millennial Hospitality (pp. 8-9). AuthorHouse. Kindle Edition.


Questions and Concerns:

Why were no records found for Hall at NPRC?

 - An NPRC Archives/Records Technician would verify that there is enough information required to process the request. If any of the required information is incorrect or missing, the request cannot be processed. These include Full name, Date and Place of birth, service branch, and dates of service.

Since Hall's record falls into the "Archived Record" category and is not digitized, the Archives Technician would have to physically retrieve his entire record Official Military Personnel File (OMPF). I don't know exactly what happened but the SF-180 sent by David Hilton appeared to have all the required information. But was the information Hilton submitted (provided by Hall) correct?


Was his record destroyed in the 1973 NPRC fire?

No. According to the NPRC:  
"The losses to federal military records collection included:75% loss to records of U.S. Air Force personnel discharged from September 25, 1947, to January 1, 1964, with names alphabetically after Hubbard, James E."


Why would Hall refuse to provide researchers a redacted copy of his DD-214 as proof of service?

Researcher and YouTube creator Steven Cambian states in this video that he had contacted Charles Hall on multiple occasions requesting Hall provide a redacted form of proof of his military service claims.@1:36:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y_d7JV2THE&t=7883s

Cambian reported that after confronting Hall that no record was found (by David Hilton who had previously found no record from NPRC of Hall's military service history in 2015).  Charles Hall told Cambian that his records were "Top Secret" and  "You don't have a need to know."

Why would Hall provide a false date of birth or other false information required by NPRC to process a FOIA request for his releasable service details?

Because he is hiding something.  Hall has produced photos supposedly taken of himself in Vietnam as well as certificates and awards. But I believe he may be hiding his actual military MOS or duty assignments prior to or serving in Vietnam.

If it were proven he was not a USAF Weather Observer stationed at Nellis, AFB, then his "Tall Whites Aliens" story is a total lie. And Michael Salla who promoted "witnesses A, B, and C" by David Coote, and others, (including Hall's wife and Paula Harris) are all complicit in the lie.  

Concerns:
 For the last 20 years, I have investigated dozens of cases of suspected fraudulent military service claims. Each is unique and some are very complicated. I learned early the hard way never to accuse an actual Veteran of false claims without providing absolute documented evidence.

Mr. Charles J. Hall will have my benefit of the doubt until the facts are obtained.

Wait, what's this: February 19, 2019:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10218500060841449&set=pb.1492930447.-2207520000.&type=3



On July 9, 2023, I Submitted a request for Charles Halls' record to the NPRC using Vetrecs and the same details of Hall submitted by David Hilton in 2015. I received the following notification and official response letter on July 11, 2023.









A follow-up FOIA request was submitted to the NPRC (Vetrecs) on July 11, 2023, using updated information on Halls' DOB, Place of Enlistment, and Place of Discharge. Halls' awards/decorations, duty assignments, and education were specifically requested.

That request was received but has yet to be processed as of July 21, 2023.


Update:  December 18, 2023:

A response to a July 11, 2023 follow-up request from NPRC Vetrecs was received today, showing no record of service found for Charles James Hall.

The July 11 follow-up request included a link to the information contained in this specific blog post. 


Conclusion:

It is my belief that Charles James Hall created an elaborate hoax resulting in a documentary film featuring his fictional claims of military service to establish credibility for his bizarre experiences with Aliens for fame and monetary gain.


Sources:






Charles Hall





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