Response from David J West to the publication of "Red Undead"

The following is the response by author David J. West regarding Dietrich's claims of publishing the book "Red Undead" and it's subsequent "banning" by Amazon.

Richard:

"I watched those three videos today, very interesting. I had my suspicions but had not done my due diligence. I first heard Douglas when he did Coast to Coast in December 2011 and was interested in what he had to say so I e-mailed him and he soon responded.

He always had so many things to say and was a fascinating person. He had an answer for almost anything. Granted, I did not check him out as you have done.

By 2013 I was divorced and moving on with life, courting my current wife. I was trying to change my life in a positive direction and had less time for Douglas's negative outlook. I would say that the things he said only grew more extreme and I was not always keen to those things.

I had worked on Red Undead in early 2012 to make it palatable to the public but I could not personally find it believable. It was interesting, yes, but like good historical fiction - which was the source of my original interest in Douglas.

I was upset with Lorien Fenton for trying to give me a cheap flat-rate for working on it, so I quit working on the edits of which Douglas was incredibly anal and ridiculous about. You clearly know how he writes and it's just not palatable to the lay audience.

As time went on I spent less and less time talking with him. He said a lot of things publicly that I didn't agree with and soon I felt it best to not have anything more to do with him.

I had to laugh about Doug's assertions about the book. He should know if it was ever published. It wasn't.

I had no idea he dreamt up the conspiracy about it until you showed it to me."

All the best,

David J. West

David

sent

40 minutes ago

I️ had forgotten I️ had a link to Douglas’s site on my blog because I️ rarely visit it anymore.

Douglas Dietrich: "I was the first to expose the Bad SPN Codes" Lie

In a pathetic and disjointed response to my comments regarding his hatred of the US Military and veterans, in particular, Douglas Dietrich claims he "has done more for veterans than even Dannion Brinkley."

Dietrich cited his 2011 interview with John B Well on Coast To Coast AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbbEOj6z3Jg as his being the first person to expose the use of "Severance Codes" or "SPNs" as harmful to veterans from 1947 to 1973.

Douglas Dietrich had absolutely nothing to do with "exposing" this alleged scandal.  The man who did, and was still involved in the issue was Edwin H. Crosby III.

http://injusticexposed.org/id11.html 

Spin Codes - Legal Action
By: Edwin Crosby

"The author of this story, Edwin Crosby, served in the USAF from 1966-1971.  He volunteered to go to Vietnam and served in MACVSOG, 15th Special Operations Squadron,  Nha Trang, AB,  RVN  from November 1968 to June 1970.

His lawsuit began in March of 1976, having discovered in February of 1976, he had a BAD 'Spin Code' number.  The case was originally filed in the US District Court, Northern District of New York, Syracuse.  

He has been fighting this case on behalf of all veterans and has been instrumental in having D.O.D.  change the DD-214 many times to prevent future damage to other veterans.

Beginning JUNE 11, 1956, under D.O.D. Instruction 1336.3,  DOD ordered the military departments to begin putting a coded number on the main employment reference document of veterans. This document known as the DD-214 is intended to be presented to employers by veterans seeking employment and benefits.

According to Plaintiff's Exhibit NO: 6, D.O.D. Instruction 1336.1, dated September 1, 1966, SUBJECT - Standardization of Forms for Report of Transfer or Discharge of Members of the Armed Forces of the U.S., there were to be 8 or more copies of DD-214 made.  Copy one to the veteran, other copies eventually went to State Adjutant General, VA Data Processing Center, Austin, TX.,  State Director Selective Service, Nat. Military Records Center, St. Louis, Mo.

As of 1977, nearly 20 million veterans had a coded number. This is SHOCKING as in 1974  D.O.D. told Congress that only a couple hundred thousand had a code number.  Moreover, in 1974  DOD told Congress they would stop the " SPN "  coding system, however, in 1972, they were already changing the system to " SPD "  (separation program designator ).  They deceived Congress and the American People.  Millions of veterans with an Honorable Discharge have a " BAD "  coded number."

7 Part Series "THE SECRET CODE ON VETERAN'S DD214" August 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw9SvCiJm1k

 Edwin H. Crosby YouTube Channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv71CjHlv-Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8Z9NG6cCJ0

Edwin H Crosby passed away on March 18, 2019:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/198435364/edwin-h-crosby

This story, as revealed by Mr. Crosby, also reveals that then Delaware Rep. Joe Biden and Arizona Sen John McCain were both involved in the government cover-up at the time (the early 1980s).  In addition, the info of litigation was later presented by Sen Dick Durban to President Barack Obama who also did nothing.

All of this as a result of an SPN Code ("411 Overseas Returnee") on the DD-214 of Mr. Crosby in 1970. WHEN DOUGLAS DIETRICH WAS 4 YEARS OLD!

But I guess that since Mr. Crosby is now deceased, Dietrich will continue to lie and somehow work this into his fake resume as well.

Douglas Dietrich and the Camp Pendleton/MCRD USMC Porn Ring Lie

Douglas Dietrich's Claims:

 - Agreed to appear in USMC "porn movies" as a condition of his "Dishonorable Discharge" from the USMC in 1991.

- Had "illegal orders" to report to Richard K Cole who he said had contacted him by phone, for sex.

- He was personally responsible for exposing a USMC "Gay/Child Porn Ring" involving Marines at MCRD San Diego, and Camp Pendleton and underage boys.

- That he worked with the wives of US Marines involved in exposing the scandal. 

- That he personally informed Police and Marine investigators about "Uncle Rico" aka "Bobby" Luciano Ceballos.

The following news articles from August to October 1993, however, detail a totally different story and essentially refute his own. Most importantly, the investigation found no evidence of extensive Marine involvement.  It also did not show any involvement of Marines assigned to MCRD San Diego, and...

"Child abuse investigators for the Oceanside Police Department announced last week that they were closing an inquiry into a gay male porno production ring because it did not involve underage boys, as detectives had feared."

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-08-23-mn-27057-story.html

The three articles I present here as evidence tell a very different story.  One of the first questions I had was how could Dietrich have been personally involved including "working with the wives of Marines" in Oceanside, CA while living in San Francisco.

(See Sources below)

Dietrich's "whereabouts" 1991-1994:

• Professional acting school/finishing school John Robert Powers school 1991-92
• DoD Research Librarian/Military Reference Technician Sep 1991-Sep 92
• SF Police Academy 1992-93
• “Personal Bodyguard Bottom” for Porno Actresses 1992-94 Executive Security & Investigations Inc
• Contract policeman at raves – 1993-94. The organization hired underage cops

https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglas-dietrich-79327b40/

My whereabouts 1988-1994:

After leaving USMC Active Duty in April 1988 I was exploring employment opportunities in areas near immediate family in New York State. (I had been issued $6,000.00 in US Savings Bonds I had acquired while on active duty). I was a USMC Individual Ready Reservist (IRR) and received orders to report to the Syracuse, NY USMC Reserve Center twice a year until receiving an Honorable Discharge in May 1990.

I chose to move to rural Summer Hill, NY, and was hired by Smith Carona Inc. in August 1988. I worked there as an assembler until major lay-offs began in August 1990. I was receiving extended unemployment benefits when I was offered the opportunity to attend college via the Trade Adjustment Allowance Act, https://oui.doleta.gov/unemploy/tra.asp

I enrolled at Tompkins Cortland Community College in the spring of 1991 and earned an Associate of Applied Science degree in Communications Studies in 1993.  I then transferred to the SUNY at Cortland as a Junior to study Communications with a minor concentration in History in 1993. I attended SUNY Cortland until 1995. 

During that time I lived in Cortland, NY, completed an internship at the local newspaper The Cortland Standard as a General Assignment Reporter, and worked essentially full time at two restaurants/bars as a dishwasher and line cook.

This refutes Dietrich's claims of my serving as a US Marine in California in 1991 when he claims he received a Dishonorable Discharge. In fact, I was never stationed in California and ended my Active Service obligation from the 2nd Marine Division, Camp Lejeune NC. I did participate in a Combined Arms Excercise (CAX) at 29 Palms, CA in Jan-Feb 1988 after Dietrich had already been tossed out the Marine Corps. 

Sources:

MARINES LINKED TO GAY PORN - Chicago Tribune

10 Pendleton Marines Posed Nude, Probe Finds - Los Angeles Times

Leader of Porno Ring Says 500 Marines Involved : Pornography: He says the men appeared in gay videos for the money--and because they are lonely. Corps officials say they have identified no one connected to the films. - Los Angeles Times

Douglas Dietrich and the Red Undead Banned Book Lie

Is Douglas Dietrich creating another elaborate lie about having published a book in 2015? 

How is it that no one has had evidence of such a book since 2015?  

Why isn't David J. West shown on the book's cover as a co-author as Amazon indicates?

Did Dietrich just post this recently to Amazon? 

I have never heard Dietrich mention this book!  EVER!  What is Dietrich up to? 

Is this an attempt to claim he is a published author? 

Why would this book matter and not an upcoming book series with Peter Moon?

"TONIGHT ON EVENTIDE WHENCE the DIETRICH GOES GOTH TO RECOUNT THE SUPPRESSED HISTORY BEHIND HIS BANNED BOOK ON THE GENOCIDAL COMMUNIST EXPLOITATION ‘O’ A SENTIENT HUMAN SUBSPECIES  And attempt to find thyself a single extant Copy." (10-7-20)  

http://amazon.com/Red-Undead-Untold.../dp/1499573863

Amazon book details:

"About the author written by Dietrich himself with no mention of David J. West.

NOTE:  "Createspace Independent Publishing Program June 25, 2015)"  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CreateSpace

Who is David J. West?   https://david-j-west.blogspot.com/p/about.html

https://www.amazon.com/kindle-dbs/entity/author/B004AIN4W4?_encoding=UTF8&node=283155&offset=0&pageSize=12&searchAlias=stripbooks&sort=author-sidecar-rank&page=1&langFilter=default#formatSelectorHeader

The Title "Red Undead - The untold story of the supernatural Soviets" is NOT listed as one of his books!

ISBN# Search:  Shows publication date of December 2015 (Not June 25, 2015)

NO BOOK COVER AVAILABLE

Did Dietrich recently "create" a book cover and upload it to the Amazon page?

Beyond Ghosts Episode 45 – Interview with Doug Dietrich about WWII Russian Vampires

Posted by beyondghosts on Wednesday, 2 of December , 2009 at 6:12 am

Audio: http://beyondghosts.planetparanormal.com/wp-content/downloads/bgip45doug.mp3

Dietrich claimed he was "working for the State of California at that time (2009) as a "documents destruction expert."  

Employed a female co-writer who had a nervous break-down dealing with the material.

https://darkcreaturesexposed.wordpress.com/2017/05/07/russian-vampire-colony/

 - The book was not Registered /Copyrighted by the Library of Congress

- An ISBN# can be either purchased from Bowkers or assigned free of charge by Amazon when published/sold as a Trade Book (paperback).

- An ISBN# can be assigned even before a book is ever written.

- The book is "Out of Print"

- The book has not been listed by any other bookseller but Amazon.

No copies were ever sold and there are no used copies or publications electronically by Kindle.

October 8, 2020

Apparently David J West knows Douglas Dietrich personally:

As he provides a link to Dietrich's website from his own.

UPDATE: October 9

Author David J. West has responded to my query regarding Douglas Dietrich's claim.

I am withholding any further comment until we have communicated further and he consents to my publishing his official response.

At this point, what I can say is that Dietrich has created another elaborate lie regarding this book.  

UPDATE: October 30

The following is the response by author David J. West regarding Dietrich's claims of publishing the book "Red Undead" and it's subsequent "banning" by Amazon.

Richard:

"I watched those three videos today, very interesting. I had my suspicions but had not done my due diligence. I first heard Douglas when he did Coast to Coast in December 2011 and was interested in what he had to say so I e-mailed him and he soon responded.

He always had so many things to say and was a fascinating person. He had an answer for almost anything. Granted, I did not check him out as you have done.

By 2013 I was divorced and moving on with life, courting my current wife. I was trying to change my life in a positive direction and had less time for Douglas's negative outlook. I would say that the things he said only grew more extreme and I was not always keen to those things.

I had worked on Red Undead in early 2012 to make it palatable to the public but I could not personally find it believable. I was interesting, yes, but like good historical fiction - which was the source of my original interest in Douglas.

I was upset with Lorien Fenton for trying to give me a cheap flat-rate for working on it, so I quit working on the edits of which Douglas was incredibly anal and ridiculous about. You clearly know how he writes and it's just not palatable to the lay audience.

As time went on I spent less and less time talking with him. He said a lot of things publicly that I didn't agree with and soon I felt it best to not have anything more to do with him.

I had to laugh about Doug's assertions about the book. He should know if it was ever published. It wasn't.

I had no idea he dreamt up the conspiracy about it until you showed it to me."

All the best,

David J. West

David

sent

40 minutes ago

I️ had forgotten I️ had a link to Douglas’s site on my blog because I️ rarely visit it anymore.

Gary D. States Allegations of Forgery Refuted/Explained

VBA Claims Examiner Gary D. States not only accessed my personal identifying information and those of Jonn Liyea, but he also divulged them to Douglas Dietrich which is a felony violation of the HIPPA Law.

States mention of the lack of a cover letter in connection to the documents was not because it didn't exist.  It was simply because my name and address were listed on the cover letter which had been sent to me and I did not find it necessary to provide it.

Otherwise, his review of these documents and determination they were fraudulent revealed that he had no idea what he was even looking at.  

He could not even identify one of them was actually an NA Form 13164 "Releasable Information Under the Freedom of Information Act" and that the separate document, "List of Duty Assignments" had been prepared by the NARA/NPRC Records Technician who processed my request.

George Dietrich's Official Military Personnel File (OMPF) would not have been in Electronic Format.

His record would have required a physical retrieval by the NPRC Records Technician who processed my request.  The Records Technician would then have used a PDF file of NA Form 13164 to enter his releasable information manually onto the form and then printed it.

In addition, his listing of Duty Assignment would have been manually copied onto a separate attachment and also printed. An official NARA cover letter showing the NARA official logo was provided to me and showed my name and address associating me with the original request.

The letter was signed by the Records Technician who processed my request and the 3 documents were mailed to me at that address.

Below is an explanation of the portion of the NA Form 13164 which was blank.

States "brilliantly" observed that the documents had been scanned and/or cropped.  Of course, I scanned them in order to convert them electronically to JPEG image files. 

But unlike the Douglas Dietrich NA Form 13164 Steve Outtrim obtained (which had been improperly cropped and excluded the forms designation on the bottom right), the JPEG images I created were properly cropped and included the forms designation.

The DMDC FOIA obtained by Jonn Lilyea showed no dates of service for Douglas Dietrich because he did not properly submit Dietrich's full name, date of birth or any other descriptors.

Douglas Duane Dietrich; Phony Desert Storm Marine

Jonn Lilyea | September 27, 2016  https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=68170

Dietrich NA-13164 published by Outtrim and Lilyea

DOD/DMDC Status Report published by Lilyea

The documents I published:

Dietrich NA 13164

Dietrich DOD/DMDC Status Report

The DOD/DMDC report showed only the dates of Dietrich's "Active Duty for Training" for USMC Basic Training prior to his Entry Level Separation.

It does not show any other dates of employment by the DOD as a civilian employee.  This is proof Douglas Dietrich was NEVER employed as a DOD "Research Librarian" at the Presidio.

 

Instead of requesting his own and/or father's records himself, Douglas Dietrich immediately sought to discredit or disprove them by alleging they had been altered or forged by Jonn Lilyea.  Had Dietrich done so, he could have compared the documents I obtained with those he obtained and would have found them to be identical!